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FR: Gua Rapo 10-23—-10-24-09

Posted in Uncategorized on October 25, 2009 by cavemanchris

Wings: Stretch, unknown PUA

Goals for the night:
– Open immediately
– Qualify Targets
– Remain Talkative
– Use False Time Constraint

Sets opened: Between 6-9
Notable Sets:

– HB 8 Religious- Super cool chick who just happened to be a God freak. Tall, Blonde, Blue eyes, nice body but not necessarily my type. She was into me and didn’t resist any of my kino although I didn’t escalate physically. She was definetely a jesus freak but was very sexual in nature. She was also drinking and it made me question how how far I could really take it. She did not comply to a simple cheek kiss and I failed to punish her for it. I also violated my own rule of buying a girl a drink but she gamed me pretty well. She offered to buy me one first but some how I ended up buying the drink. She was super cool though so no regrets. Time bridged and number closed right before we were about to switch venues. We ended up staying longer….I should have re-opened because she seemed dissapointed I was leaving earlier.
Good: Number closed, Qualified target, disqualified, Decent amount of Kino, Timebridged. Bad: Failed to escalate, did not create bigger compliance hoops, failed to recognize which stage I was in the interaction although I should have known better. Should have transitioned into better comfort because i definetely had attraction.

– HB8-German- Seemed cool. Was very compliant but I failed to escalate. I’m not really sure was I was trying to do in the set. I just remember her laughing a lot. I believe I should have went lighter on the humor and had more sexual intent. Did time bridge and number close but don’t remember her name and not sure if I programmed her or not into my phone—-work down the drain.
Good- Decent amount of attraction, time bridged, Qualified, number closed. Bad: Not enough Kino, target kind of skeptical of my intentions- most likely due to too much attraction and no comfort game run.

Goal accomplishment: 3/4—Failed to false time constraint on any of my sets

All in all I’m pretty pleased with my accomplishments. AA is once again virtually non-existent but I was drinking so I am not too pleased with that. Looking forward to eliminating the alcohol.

Things to work on:
-My attraction was decent this week. Need to work on making it more solid.
-Now ready to begin working on comfort again and re-implement my interleaved grounding sequence.
– Need better compliance hoops.
– Remember to false time constraint
– Prepare in advance and have more clear definable goals for the night


FR: 18th St. Lounge 10-22-09

Posted in Uncategorized with tags on October 22, 2009 by cavemanchris

Aight I’m trying to get into the habit of posting FR’s once again regardless of how brief and pointless they may be

Wings: Stretchpup, Tigro, Subzero, LiveForever, Stonewall

Goals for the night:
– Open immediately
– Qualify Targets
– Remain Talkative
– Use False Time Constraint

Sets opened: Between 10-15
Notable Sets:
-2 German Girl number closes HB 5 and HB 7. Proud of this set because I Qualified HB 7 and seeded an upcoming event I would like them to attend. They seemed interested but perhaps mildly interested.
Good: Didn’t really utilize a wing. Occupied both by myself pretty much. Kept them engaged in playful, flirty, absure conversation. Used false time constraint.
Bad: Failed to convey real interest. In return, only got mild interest.

– Seated 2-set. took a dominant position and began plowing.
Good: Good Dominance, playfulness, teasing. Bad: Remained on the same thread for too long. Also allowed the cock-blocking friend to steal my target.

– Outside: Two Middle Eastern Hb’s. Proud of this set because I used a relevant situational opener and turned it into a very playful, banter filled interaction.
Good: Good free association. Good dominance. Cavemanned the girl by lifting her and running away with her. Went after a girl that I was actually REALLY attracted to. Bad: Might have done too much too early.I should have entered into comfort.

– Outside Fat chick. Proud of this set because I held a super strong self-amusing frame throughout the interaction.
Good: Self amusing. Bad: No transition.

Goal accomplishment: 4/4

Overall good night. Thanks for being good wings guys!

Links to My Field Reports And Daily Progress Journal

Posted in Uncategorized on May 2, 2009 by cavemanchris

I’ve decided write daily Field Reports to track my progress in the game. This is an important area of my game that I have been neglecting so I gotta get it straight. Anyways, it will be posted on the RSD forum because they have by far the most active members of any other forum and it will give me the best opportunity to get feedback or constructive criticism. Under that thread, I will also have my Text Message and Lay Report thread. The link is on the right hand side under “Blogs I Fuck With.”

Pick-Up is like Baseball

Posted in Uncategorized on April 27, 2009 by cavemanchris

Pick-up is a numbers game. No matter how good you get at pick-up, your still going to fail a majority of the time. Think of it in terms of baseball. In baseball, your average hall of fame player bats just above .300. Think about that. That means that 70% of the time, he fails! Does he let that discourage him? Hell NO! Some of the greatest players of all time are also in the record books for also having the most strikeouts of all time.Take a look at the list:

1. Reggie Jackson – 2597
2. Sammy Sosa – 2306
3. Jim Thome – 2043
4. Andres Galarraga – 2003
5. Jose Canseco – 1942
6. Willie Stargell – 1936
7. Mike Schmidt – 1883
8. Fred McGriff – 1882
9. Tony Perez – 1867
10. Dave Kingman – 1816
11. Bobby Bonds – 1757
12. Craig Biggio – 1753
13. Dale Murphy – 1748
14. Lou Brock – 1730
15. Mickey Mantle – 1710

These are all great fucking players. What separates them from the pack is their commitment to “The Game” despite all their past failures. You will never hit the ball 100% of the time, but the longer you stay committed to working on your game, the greater your hit percentage will improve. Pick-up is very similar.

My own personal experience with handling rejection:

I’ve recently had a problem with approach anxiety returning out of nowhere. I had a difficult time assessing the problem because I had been in the community for several months as a newbie without AA. I believe this reoccurence of AA was the effect of months and months of rejection crushing my self esteem. I am now in a recovery phase and am almost fully functional again. AA barely affects me now and I open without really thinking. One thing that helped me is realizing that fear is only an illusion and cannot really affect you. It is completely made up. Embrace the fear of rejection because it will always be there. Befriend your fear of rejection because eliminating it is not important, but being able to manage it is. So what if it makes you uncomfortable? Embrace your uncomfortableness and release the emotion. Realize that venues have a 95% turnover rate and that 99% of the people in the venue you are sarging will not be there next week or tomorrow when you return. Realize that they often care and observe you way less than you think they do because they are often focused on their own insecurities. I recently read an article written by Ryan from RSD that really struck a chord with me. He was talking about his reoccurence of AA after completing his Euro-tour and returning to the US. He seemed to be going through the same problem that I did. He felt that he would be perceived as weird by everyone around him if he was rejected by the target he chose to approach. His epiphany resonated within me:

“I rather be weird than lonely”

Would you rather feel “weird” from approaching and getting shut down by a bunch of random girls who know nothing about you, or would you rather be lonely and stay that way 20-30 years from now?

I imagined 20 years from now how I felt about this and determined that I would feel weird for BEING lonely. I don’t want be the guys who’s only true friend is man’s best friend. I don’t want to be that guy who ends up on “To Catch A Predator” because he can’t get laid and his balls are swollen with lust. I don’t want to be that guy who sits around avoiding anything that inconveniences him while his life ticks away. I am determined to continue to embrace my insecurities and expand proactively to make sure I am in alignment with all of my goals. Repeat after me because there’s only 1 rule…. I WILL NOT LOSE!

Text Report: Trying New Things

Posted in Uncategorized on April 16, 2009 by cavemanchris

Ok I got a couple new TR’s to post. I used the same Text re-opener on all of these girl except the first one and the last. I also used something new that a co-worker suggested. He mentioned something and I thought would be perfect as a sexual innuendo element. He said “what do u have that I can eat that has noooooo calories.” I like this because it’s vague and if she rejects it, I can deny it as u will see in the forthcoming texts(R). The only thing is I forgot to use the nooooo calories part on 2 of the texts which kinda ruins it as it turns it a little more explicit. I used it in most of my texts as well.

“R” HB 7.5

Me: You able to come out this weekend naughty girl?
(I’m always trying to frame her sexually because she’s kind of reserved…she sometimes comes with elements of her own. Check the previous post she is ” R” that I met @ Chi-Cha lounge)
“R”:Whoa…thought u were done w/me;0). I think I shld be able to What’s up?
(Haven’t texted her in like 2 weeks)
Me: Oh not done with u yet…you’d need gatorade… Thinking maybe we’ll meet up Fri. Or Sat. night..I’ll be out both nights
(I got the Gatorade thing from Captain Jack but he uses it on his strawberry fields routine…she totally does’t catch it thought)
“R”: What will I need gatorade for?;0) I might be able to get out on Friday
Me: Aight I’ll hit u up. We’ll do Gazuza or something
“R”: What’s Gazuza? Never heard…
Me: It’s like Chi Cha lounge…bar/hooka
“R”:Oh ok…sounds cool
“R”l: btw, r u on facebook
Me: yeah Search _________
“R”l: Just sent ya a friend request. Saw ur page…U have good taste in music!
Me:Thanks…hmm taste. I’m so hungry right now. What do have that I can eat?
( Forgot to use the “nooooo calories part” which makes it sound more explicit than I intended and she calls my ass out on it but I deny it ;0))
“R”: Oh man…not touchin that w/ a 10 ft. pole!;0)
Me: So I take it you don’t cook then? U know the way to a man’s heart is through his stomach right?
( I denied it and kinda of twisted it into a qualifier and she bites)
“R”:Ohhh u were being 4 real? I though you were being fresh…absolutely…his stomach and some good….
(Weird…it sounds like she is trying to be implicit at the end there…like she was saying and some good….head or sex..This girl confuses me)
Me: Me? Fresh? look @ u thinking those pervy thoughts about me again…naughty girl..
(Framed her sexually again as the agressor)
“R”: pervy thoughts over here ;0)
(She rejects but with a smiley face so I don’t know if she’s trying to be flirty or not…she’s often smiley face-happy)
“R”: And yes, I can cook…
(She qualifies herself to me. Don’t know if I should have went dead air after this but I did. We’ll see what happens)

E from Vegas SC

Me: Gorgeous, charming, funny, lovable…well enough about me what are u up to?
E: Just got outa yoga…about to eat a burrito
Me: Hmmm ur making me hungry…hey what can u make me to eat to eat that has noooo calories?
E: Do you have an eating disorder
(Misinterpretes or IOD’s me…can’t call it..either way my response is kinda lame)
Me:Yeah I eat everything I see….so be careful…sometimes I can’t control my urges
(Lame and too explicit? I thought she would bite anyways because we’ve had flirty convos before. This is the chick from Vegas that I almost pulled before I was fucked on logistics)
Her: Soup.
(I think she new what wassup but she rejected my frame and got all smarty-pants on me.)
(Dead Air)

M HB Fillipina

Me: Gorgeous, charming, funny, lovable…well enough about me what are u up to?
M:U r soooo funny. Shit im going to school. Wats up? how r u?
Me: @ work doing NO actual work…gotta feed all my baby mamas ya heard me!
(That was the best I could come up with in that moment)
M: U r so weird…pimp. lol
Me:Yes, a hungry pimp. What do u have that I can eat?
( FOrgot the noooo calorie…thus way to explicit)
(Dead Air)

Brandi Hb 7

Me: Gorgeous, charming, funny, lovable…well enough about me what are u up to?
Brandi:I am working in HAwaii
Brandi:ps-its 07:45 here
Me:Oh u poor thing…I’m sorry to hear that….u must be so miserable @ such and exotic
destination spot…how long u there for?
Brandi:haha…yes its just terrible…here 4 more weeks
Me: Cool lets link up when u get back I’m beginning to forget what u look like
( I forgot who I got this from…Captain Jack? THe basic principle is that people are more willing to work towards not losing something than work towards gaining somethingSo I am basically trying to create a fear of loss)
Brandi:Well it will be 10 wks before I get home…I go to seatle after here
Me: K babe see u then
( Got lazy on this one…I think it was more the flow of a comfort only convo…I should have flirted more)
(Dead Air)

“M” HB 6
Me: U work Friday?
“M”:I work every weekday. Why do u ask? U don’t actually want to meet up do u? I’m so used to your random texts. That would b a shocking next step for u
( Probably an indication that my texts were uncalibrated)
Me: I actually do! I wanna test out my honey I shrunk the kids machine on u..
“M”: Ha, nice- I’ve always wanted to be pocket sized. Where are we meeting?
(This would have been a good opportunity to complete the line…” Yeah…then I could wrap u up in bubble wrap and slide u in there but I missed it oh well)
Me: Hmmm maybe like Front page-Dupont Thurs. or Fri night for some drinks?
“M”: Thurs sounds good- front page works. What time?
Me: I’ve never been there before 10 but I think this week i might…like 7:30?
“M”:Haha- me either. Can we make it 8? Do u even remember what I look like? Lol.
Me: I was beginning to forget…8 sounds good
(Implementing the fear of loss principle again)
“M”: I’ll remind you on thurs;) see ya
( I think this is a decent IOI)

Stephanie HB 7

Me: Gorgeous, charming, funny, lovable…well enough about me what are u up to?
Stephanie: Haha nothin at all. Recovering. And yourself?
Me: Yeah I saw u at the meeting
Stephanie: You saw me? Huh?
Me: Yeah u were @ SAA recovering from ur boy addiction right?
( Sexual innuendo element)
Stephanie: Haha. Boy addiction? Nah. Too many drinks last night! No addictions.
Me: Denial is not just a river in Egypt….
(Edge element I believe)
Stephanie: You’re on a roll today, now arentcha?!
Me: Hmmmm a roll…ur making me hungry…Feed ME! What can I eat that has Nooooo calories?
(I misinterpreted her comment and turned it into a sexual innuendo..I believe I finally did it right)
Stephanie: I could think of a few things.
(It seems like she takes the bait so I decided to push it a little bit and maybe bring it to the surface where it’s a little bit more explicit)
Me: Hmmm I wonder…is it juicy and fufilling….?
Stephanie: Very good possibility that it is.
(It seems like we’re still on the same page so I try to play with it a little more)
Me: Will it melt in my mouth?
(Dead Air)
(Hmmm no response…maybe I took the convo way to explicit….maybe I should have release the tension? Maybe I could have said…” It’s a grape! ” and the transitioned into something else. Idunno.

Ok so I pretty much screwed all these text convos up but I don’t think it’s anything I can’t recover from. Practice makes perfect!!!

I would appreciate if I could your opinions and suggestions on the these texts. Please let me know if I missed anything. Thanks Guys!

Chode Week + LR and TR

Posted in Uncategorized on March 28, 2009 by cavemanchris

Chode Week

I'm Feeling Kinda Chody

I'm Feeling Kinda Chody

I’m not particularly proud of of the last two weeks. Upon arriving back back from Vegas,  I have seen only minor changes in my game. Although I have corrected some of my “bad habits”,  my state hasn’t been that solid. I feel like a chode. My approach anxiety has returned slightly,  and I haven’t been opening very many sets. The sets that have stuck,  tend to stick pretty well due to improvements in my stack.  Sometimes I’m not sure if that’s a gift or a curse. I gives me more of an opportunity to work my “magic” but then again, if I act like a pussy and refuse to escalate,  it turns into a complete waste of time. In Vegas, I felt invincible. I opened mixed 2 and 3 sets without hesitation. In addition to this, the girls where extremely hot compared to DC girls. Here are the highlights for my last few outings.

Tuesday Night 3/10: Lima
JSC and I meet up at Lima. I am feeling anxiety. I feel unprepared and uncalibrated. I’m thinking of getting a drink at the bar,  but I decide to stick to my no drinking in field rule. After all, you can’t rely on alcohol when your teaching a bunch of students.  This is  a habit I need to get rid of immediately.  JSC opens up a chick close to the bar on the top floor. Her friend soon arrives and I banter with her. She is hot and into to me so I am super aggressive. I tease her, run a few routines, a couple of cold reads and transition into comfort. After about 30 minutes we bounce downstairs. For the rest of the night, I danced with her and ran comfort on her until an eventual make out on the dance floor. She had to go eventually so I numbered closed her and she left. More on her later.

Friday 3/13: Front Page/Shadow Room
Went to Shadow room with JSC, Dare, and Horizon. IT was wack. I actually left Front Page to go there on Dare’s request and it turns out the crowd was pretty weak. I was kinda blown about this because Front Page had some really hot girl there that night….and that’s rare. This was my first time at Shadow Room and I was pretty disappointed. It’s about as big as my bedroom so I had anxiety about losing social value by approaching. I opened like 1 or two girls the whole night. Dare made out with a fat Russian chick so now I make fun of him regularly…it wouldn’t be a bid deal if he didn’t mention it but since he did I’m not going to let it go…. I will now bust out in maniacal laughter.

Saturday Night 3/14?: College Park
Went to Thirsty Turtle with JSC and IAMBRIAN. WACKKKK!!! It was hot and overcrowded. IT also smelled. I approached a few sets but the loudness of the venue made it impossible to interact with the young ADD college chicks. I will have to work greatly on my nonverbal came if I ever decide to go back there.



Tuesday 3/17 Lima, Irish Times, Lima
Went to LIMA with JSC and when we arrived we found that like 10 PUA’s were going there that night. We decided to bounce to Irish Times with Dare which was a complete sausage fest and featured a handful of unattractive irish girls. Kill that noise! Went back to LIMA and had moderate success opening sets but nothing really hooked. My Subcoms have been off all week.

Friday night 3/20 t: Front Page/ Gazuza/Chi-Cha lounge
Started out at Front page. Wasn’t really poppin’ like it was last week so after meeting up with Stonewall and JSC we bounced to Gazuza. There I Met up with Dare, Horizon, Fearless(faggot), Professor Dan, and Slugger. Basically just relaxed the whole time I was there..wasn’t too bad just a little crowded. I like Gazuza’s atmosphere but it’s not really good for gaming.   Approached a couple sets and pawned a decent Columbian chick off to Stonewall as an early B-day present. I Didn’t feel like dealing with the language barrier… Ended up @ Chi-Cha lounge which was surprisingly empty for a Friday night. The atmosphere was really fun though. I was pretty much a chode crystal while I was there opening only about 2-3 sets. Towards the end of the night I opened a 2 set. I ran my attraction and moved into comfort while JSC occupied the obstacle. I didn’t really have much time to build enough comfort with my target(“R”) but I number closed her anyway at the end of the night. I didn’t really believe it would be a solid number.   I had been texting her back and forth for a while but she really surprised me one early morning. Here is our  conversation from the beginning to end over several days.

Ok I had something weird happen to me yesterday. I received a text from a girl I met last week at Chi Cha lounge from a girl named R.  I had been texting her back and forth for a while but she really surprised me one early morning. Here is our  conversation from the beginning to end over several days.

ME: Meow
Her: I have no idea who this is
ME: Chris from Chi-CHa ..remember you wouldn’t let me leave without getting my number?
Her: Ohhh….Wowze…how r u?;-)
Me: (Can’t remember what I said her the text was deleted in the thread of my phone)

(Dead Air)

Next Day

ME: What’s Cuter..a mini pony or a giant Kitten?
Her:Hmmmmm good question…I think a small pony….a giant kitten would be weird
ME: Interesting…that says a lot about you…are u adventurous?
Her: What does it say about me? I think I’m pretty adventurous 😉
ME: Really….what’s the most adventurous thing that you’ve ever done
(No response)

Next Day
ME: Hey I’m luring girls back to my house with candy….do you prefer skittles or M&M’s?
Her:M&Ms….why do you ask these type of question? 😉 btw, I walked 400 ft up in the air on a canopy bridge in Africa…that was pretty adventurous 2 me 😉
ME: IT’s Fun ;o) Holy Shit! That is intense…is a canopy one of those really unstable bridges like in the Indiana Jones movies? UR Wiiiilld? (Framing her sexually)
(No Response Dead Air)

So heres where it gets weird. So I didn’t put the times but these previous texts were reallly spread out….like she took long periods of time to respond…I did also…to kind of seem unneedy or whatever. But when I met her I didn’t have a lot of time to build  much comfort so I barely know her and the number close did not seem that solid. Also, as you can see in the text messages..she doesn’t appear to be that into the text convo…but she is responding. So this morning(yesterday now) around 4:40 AM I was just about to slip into bed after a night out in the field and she texts me……

NEXT MORNING @ like 4:40AM

Her: Yep- a canopy bridge is a really narrow bridge that hangs high in the air from trees…I don’t kno if I’m wild..but I like 2 take chances;-)
Me: Exhilarating…Oh my ur up late! I just laid my head on my pillow( I literally did at that time). What were u up to tonight naughty girl?
Her: Ur the one who’s up late ;-), but my kid woke me up…now I need someone to put me back 2 sleep….

(This caught me by surprise)

ME: I could help u with that
HEr: U gonna read me a bedtime story?;-)
ME: Nope…U won’t need one of those…guess again
HER: Hmmmm….some lullabye music?;-)
ME: IT would be rhythmic I guess
Her: WoW…It sounds interesting
Me: If u could have what u needed right in this moment….anything…what would it be?
Her: And maybe a lik sumthin else…;-)
Me: If u could have what u needed right in this moment….anything…what would it be?
Her: U didn’t get my response?
Her: Being held in the arms of a man who cares about me….

(What is this like a massive shit test….I was not prepared for that)

Her: And maybe a lil sumthin else…..;_)
Me: Hmmmm….I would be lying if I said I did…I barely know u…but I’m sure u are someone I COULD care about…damn u went all deep on me girl

(DId I fail the test?I’m thinking maybe I should have done a takeaway or teased her instead of getting all logical and stuff…I just didn’t feel it would have been appropriate given the circumstances)

Her: I don’t expect u 2 care…but u did ask if I could have anthing I needed n that’s what I need ;-)…what I want is a whole diff story….
Me: Well then…if u could have anything u wanted…at this moment….within reason…what would u request?

(Did I buy into her frame??)

Her: In that case…I barely kno u n don’t kno if I shld divulge such info…but ur someone I COULD share that with eventually…..;-)

(Damn…reversed the frame on me? The sucky thing is I gave her the leeway to do so…she used my own words against me…she was looking for plausible deniability and I think I engaged her logical mind..)

Me: HAha..naughty girl…I would WANT to access ur thoughts right now…
Her: I ‘m sure u would…there’s a lot 2 access..n some of it is definetely naughty
Me: I bet some of them are…u got those bad girl eyes…I bet ur fun
Her: I try 2 be ;-)…what makes my eyes “bad girl” eyes? Never heard this one before…
Me: By looking at them I pick up that sense of devilish curiousity….sensuality…like ur sort of quiet but u just like to really let yourself go when u
Me: meet someone ur fascinated by and attracted to…it really gets u excited
Me: U keep most of ur sexuality bottled up..until someone comes along to twist the cap…
(no response dead air)

SO I am really confused about this convo. It kind of caught me off guard so I wasn’t prepared and I ran pretty weak text game. I bought into all her frames. I think this girl just woke up horny and was possibly hoping I would say all the right things so she would create a reason to sleep with me. I don’t know…she really caught me by surprise…I’m upset I failed becuase I believe this could have resulted in a lay that I WASN’T supposed to get…instead I might have just screwed it up period…we’ll see how it goes.

A fellow instructor in training had to say this about my conversation. He gave me really great advice:

“M” from NY

I feel like she’s leading the interaction and you don’t really escalate. She starts to go vaguely sexual but you pretty much just meet her at the same point. If you really want to go sexual you have to be the one to lead an escalate it. And yeah, you go too logical in this one.

Her:M&Ms….why do you ask these type of question? 😉

Translation: this is weird, stop asking weird questions. You didn’t ask another one so that’s fine.

Me: By looking at them I pick up that sense of devilish curiousity….sensuality…like ur sort of quiet but u just like to really let yourself go when u
Me: meet someone ur fascinated by and attracted to…it really gets u excited
Me: U keep most of ur sexuality bottled up..until someone comes along to twist the cap…
(no response dead air)

You did an elaborate cold read over text, so I’m not surprised you got dead air. Pretty much anytime you get 3 text messages in a row from someone it feels like they’re trying too hard. If you really want to use that cold read on her, open loop it. It gives her something to wonder about so you can get her on the phone later.

Her: What do you mean bad girl eyes?
You: I’ll tell you later 😉

Her: Being held in the arms of a man who cares about me….

This isn’t really a shit test, just her answering your question. You gave her an odd, pretty big hoop for text: If you could have anything what would it be, and she jumped through it, and you think its a shit test.

Granted, its definitely a loaded statement, but there’s plenty of good ways to deal with it.

Her: And maybe a lil sumthin else…..;_)
Me: Hmmmm….I would be lying if I said I did…I barely know u…but I’m sure u are someone I COULD care about…damn u went all deep on me girl

Here she’s being implicitly sexual, and you stick with logical and rather than respond to the sexual implication you go with the loaded statement, which you can now ignore since she sent the follow up.

If you really want to go sexual though (and I know you do) you have to lead and escalate it.
“Its too bad I can’t help you with that… I only have a LOT of something else”

The whole interaction I feel like you’re just reacting “Yeah? Is that what you want? What else do you want? Oh yeah?” and not leading. And also not really adding any value to the thread.

Her: I don’t expect u 2 care…but u did ask if I could have anthing I needed n that’s what I need ;-)…what I want is a whole diff story….
Me: Well then…if u could have anything u wanted…at this moment….within reason…what would u request?

There she’s basically saying its cool lets drop that caring part and move on, but you are still insisting she give you more and basically say it, which is asking her to lead.  She’s being implicit and you are trying to get her to be explicit, which ain’t gonna happen. I know, you’re trying to ellicit or whatever, and it was fine the first time, but now you’re just asking her to give all the value. This might be a good thread in person, but its too much convoluted NLP stuff for text.

If you’re gonna go sexual, you have to push it and be the one to move it forward.  see how  threads get more and more outrageous and more blatantly sexual once the girl is receptive to the frame.

But at the same time, you never release sexuality in your texts, so you might want to practice doing that more. Just because you release doesn’t mean she’s going to suddenly not want to have sex with you anymore. You can probably use one of the ones from the book via text, just shorten it so you’re not sending 3 texts in a row, like:
“I want you to take all these dirty thoughts you’re having, and put them in a ziplock bag in your mind and save them for later”

Or you can release with humor.

Her: And maybe a lil somethin else 😉
You: Oh I know what you want…delicious ov

(though with her being that implicit I’d probably try to work with it rather than fully release the sexuality, just saying something to think about in general, remember: fractionation)

Hope these are some useful ideas.


Saturday night 3/21: Gazuza:
Went back to Gazuza’s for Stonewall’s B-day. Immediately we were joined by 3 HB’s. They were cute but were kind of value stealers and kind of sabotaged our chances of bringing other chicks to the table since space was limited. Ran a couple sets during the night and nothing really hooked too solid. At the end of the night I  got a solid number close after opening a chick with my “Robot”  Pure Kino which is always fun and social proofed me in front of like 10 people including like 6 of her friends. I have been playfully bantering with “M #11”  for about a week now.

WEEK OF 3/22

This week I haven’t really been sarging. I’ve opened a minimum amount of sets. I have been going to venues and just observing the vibe and energy of the place. I have been drinking and getting fucked up for once.

Wednesday Night 3/25 18th St. lounge
I visit my my venue-worst-enemy where I never have success. Except this time, I am not there to sarge. I drink, observe the vibe, and people watch. I enjoyed the music. This place seems less intimidating now. Can’t wait to visit next week.

Thursday Nigh 3/26t: Muse/Front Page/ Lucky Bar
Hung out with chick from Lima(3/10) and then hit Muse with JSC. It is the size of my living room. We leave and go to Front Page where I proceed to get fucked up off Corona’s. IT feels good to just chill out for once. I observe the vibe and energy of the venue. I people watch. Left and went to Lucky Bar to meet up with Clorox, Fate, and newcomer Guff. I Basically fool around with them the whole night talking about experiences with Fate and South Park with Clorox ;0) I go to the Empanada place next door and am amused by the homeless guy who skillfully lifts three juices in like 2 seconds after distracting the obstacle(owner) with his verbals and then throwing a false time constraint. He’s got game.

Friday Night 3/27: Day 4 With Chick from Lima(from 3/10 FR) LAY REPORT

I’m not going to create a detailed lay report in this instance for my own safety. This is a girl I really like and respect so I’m going to spare the really intricate details. I hope you can still learn something from this.

So I had been playfully bantering with the chick I met at Lima 3/10 pretty much everyday. We hung out a couple times since that time. I’ve had her at my place 2 times without closing but did have really heavy make out sessions and small amounts of foreplay. Friday we met up for a quick Dinner out and came back to my place and kind of just goofed off. We watched Youtube videos, danced to music videos and watched a little TV. I also revealed a little more about my identity to her by showing my musical talents. IT was pretty much a comfort building night. I tried escalating on her  randomly over several hours with no success. I believe the LMR killer was allowing her to take control at the end. I had been pretty dominant the whole night and  ever since I met her I’ve constantly Kinoed  and escalated with her. I believe it kind of made her uncomfortable since she wasn’t ready. She told me she wasn’t ready. She told me that although she felt REALLY comfortable with me, she hadn’t reached the level of comfort that would enable herself to have sex with me. She told me we were NOT having sex. Well we made out heavily, this time with her on top and we began kind of dry humping. She started feeling on my junk and I pulled my shorts and boxers off to give her REAL access. She stroked me briefly and then hopped back on me to dry hump me, this time, she let me pull the shorts that I gave her(PJ FUJI!) off. So she started grinding on my bare junk with her panties on. I believe this made her really horny and It gave her just enough control to make the decision on her own that she was comfortable to have sex. I was no longer pressuring her. She let me pull her panties panties off without resistance and allowed me to enter her.

So I have about 5 chicks in my rotation who are somewhat into me. This is the first that I’ve met that is GF material. I’m very attracted to her and she has a beautiful personality. So I’m kind of experiencing a high quality problem. I like her and care for her but the timing is obviously bad. I have just began my PUA journey and have no intention of delaying it to be in a relationship. She is a great girl and I feel bad that I will most likely have to lie to her about my “extracurricular” activities. I know most PUA’s would tell me to just be honest and upfront with her. I can’t. I still operate from a scarcity mentality and this is not a girl that I’m willing to lose right now. I need to have someone like her in my life right now. I haven’t experienced emotions close to love in a real long time. I believe I can honestly care deeply for her while seeing other women. It’s the way it has to be right now.

Lessons learned:
– Always be escalating
– Build as much comfort as possible.
– Don’t be afraid to relinquish control. Calibrate based on the situation and the girl’s personality type.
– Dry humping makes girls horny
– Let her feel your junk!
– Tight text game handles most of the work for you!!



Tonight 3/28???

Neglecting My Blog And Mehow’s 10 Second Attraction Super Conference

Posted in Uncategorized on March 21, 2009 by cavemanchris

Anybody who knows me…probably knows that I am super duper lazy when it comes to most shit. Although this is true, I constantly strive to overcome my natural inclination to “fall back” on important tasks. I consider this blog important so I am going to make a continued effort to update it to keep track of my progress in my PUA career. That be saying I would like to catch up with a few of my delayed writings.

First off, The Vegas 10 Second Attraction Superconferance! 3/5-3/8

Fucking awesome!!!! I attended this event expecting to get value….and…. I GOT VALUE BABY! Way more than expected. For those who don’t know, the 10 Second Attraction product is and e-book and DVD product that was put out by Mehow. It was a book inspired mainly by Kamoflauge, one of Mehow’s instructors. It’s based on using what is called “High Velocity” material. These are basically sound bites or phrases under “10 seconds” that make women feel sexual attraction for you. The idea you have different elements that you use throughout your entire interaction that fall into different element categories such as edgy, sexual, or comfort building. By using these elements, you are the leader of the interaction and you create an addiction mechanism that the girls can’t get enough of. Think about someone you know or have known in your life who always has something super witty, humorous, or outrageous to say and you basically can understand why this works. Your basically sub communicating a level of social intelligence that few people have and women find irresistible. Without delving into to the descirption of the product any further, I have to say that by using it, I have seen vast improvements in parts of my game. I been using a lot of it in my text and phone game and I have been getting “good girls” to get really naughty and dirty with their text replies…not to mention being sent a few very dirty pictures.

The actual conference consisted of 2 days(Sat, Sun) and had featured famed PUA speakers such as: Mehow, Hypnotica, Sinn, El Topo, Lovedrop and Mehow’s own instructors DJ Fuji and Kamoflauge. I arrived a few days earlier to give me 2 days to prepare for the infield I would be taking on Friday and Saturday night with Dj Fuji and Mehow. I had been pretty rusty an uncommitted latley, and I didn’t want to get chewed out by Fuji for not knowing my stack or experiencing AA while in field. On the plane my buddy JSC(who was attending the conference with me) met a familiar friend from back home. This guy “J”, was a big time gambler on his way to Vegas in the pursuit of dollars.  J was a big-time gambler and extended to us many of the amenities that the casino’s extended to him for being a “player”. As soon as we got to the airport, we took a limo ride with J to his ridiculously awesome suite at the Venitian. He gave us or own key cards, paid for at least 3 of our meals and allowed us to pick his brain while we accompanied him at the black jack tables many times. Did I mention,   JSC won $1200 by applying J’s black jack method! What else can I say, fucking awesome guy! Anywho, the first night JSC, J, and I went to some small club in the Venitian and I opened approximately 4 sets. Not much but it was about half the sets there, as it wasn’t a very busy night. It was a good start.

The next night, I met up with one of Mehow’s almost ready to graduate to instructor student’s “W”. Me and W have been interacting for a while on the phone and through text. I have to say, he is one insane Canadian. I was really looking forward to winging/meeting him. If you have frequented Mehow’s blog, it is the same guy that Mehow posted the videos of tracking his progress from 3-6 months. He is now at about the 9-10 month’s into the program so that footage doesn’t really do justus, although, you can definitely see the improvement. JSC, “W”, and I settled into our room at the MGM grand….man they’re was so much grade A pussy all through the casino you should have been there!!! So me and JSC hit up Studio 54 that night with J. In line, I ran into some fellow Mehow instructors in training from New York: Matt and Paul and from New Jersey, Trevor. I had met Matt and Paul at the GTG live seminar in DC about 5 months ago so it was cool seeing them again. Inside I opened a couple sets and then choded around a little bit because most of the sets were on the dance floor. I decided to invite Matt and Paul to play the open set game while inside the venue. I have used this many times as a deadly AA killer….it really fucking works. Basically we direct each other to open a set we point to. Naturally I decided to go first…and of course…Matt decides to give me the hardest set in the venue….the hired gun dancing on a raised platform on the main floor…..FUCK!!! So I go open it and said god knows what and she crouches down to talk to me briefly(she was actually really nice) then I blow my self out and let her do her thing. I then instructed Matt to open the other “dancer” on the other end..he did…and Paul followed suit. Throughout the night, I opened approximately 8 sets including and incrediably hot 3 set of spanish girls! They were probablly the hottest girls I would see the whole weekend in Vegas. While at Studio 54, “W” arrived with DJ Fuji. Apparently he had a 1-0n-1 with him so we did not interrupt. I enjoyed watched him being pushed into tough mixed sets(girlfriend/Boyfriend) and fatty 2 sets….always fun to watch a guy approach sets of chicks that are in no way attractive. It is something I despise doing, but Fuji always reprimands me for. As he says ” Work on the skillset!” We also visited “Tabu” at the MGM. It was super dead. End of night.

Friday night “W” and I went to Pure nightclub at Caesar’s palace to take infield. While waiting in line at the MGM, I opened a 2 set. We hit it off real well and they happened to also be going to Pure. We decided to share a cab together and along the way I framed them as my sugar mama’s …I teased them about how they were going to pay for the cab and all my drinks at the club. When we arrived outside of Pure I met up with Paul, MEhow, and Fuji. This was the first time I had met and talked to Mehow in person. I’m used to interacting with him from a distance so conversing with this PUA legend on a personal basis was AWESOME. We did not have to wait in line since Mehow had the hookup and with bottle service and tables on the rooftop. Unfortunately I had to ditch the girls we were with and they had to wait in that big ass line!! Interestingly enough ” W” ended up finding those girls again in the club and pulled one of them for a fuck session at the hotel room that night!! I felt so Pimp passing through all the people in line to go straight into the club. I now have a taste of what it’s like to be a celebrity…I could get used to this. When inside, Fuji got me miked up so he could listen to what I was saying in set. He instructed me to open sets…the majority of my sets stuck pretty well, which was a relief…I really had no serious blowouts. One hilarious thing I did do wrong is talk about some boring ass shit with this one girl. I had been working on my identity and interleaved grounding sequence for only a couple days at that point and wasn’t really to comfortable with it. I mainly had worked on it prior to the infield so that I would not get reprimanded by Fuji for not having or using one by now..LOL. As a  result, when I went through my interleaved grounding sequence with this HB 7 I was with on the couch…I went way to far. I started talking about Robert Kiyosaki’s cash flow quadrant..this was brought up in the superconference a few days later as Fuji was talking about what NOT to do in set. Fuji has promised that he will continue to mention the “student” who talked about Rich Dad Poor Dad in many conferances and seminars to come. That was too funny.  The night progressed and I did fairly well in terms of sticking sets. Fuji did mention that I wasn’t “flirting” enough implying I wasn’t escalating sexually enough while in set. I took note of this and made an immediate effort to improve. The night was winding down so Fuji sent me into one last set before he rolled out. OF COURSE IT WAS A FATTIE!! He knows that I have a problem opening girls that I am not attracted to. This is a major sticking point for me. I suppose it is because I don’t want the social embarrassment that comes along with being see “Courting” and “cherishing” a fat, monstrous, Hippopotamus…..but that’s just me. He always tells me it’s good practice and that “If you can’t escalate on a fattie….how are you going to escalate on an HB 10?” I suppose he’s right. All in All she did have an attractive face. I opened her..amped up the kino…built the sexual tension by inching closer and closer to her… Fuji told me to pull so I did. Let me tell you…This Fattie put me through all types of bullshit…I think this was mainly because she wanted to make sure I was into her…and kind  of toted me around as her prize. I was ready to pull straight to the MGM but Nooooooooo….she wanted to take a walk on the strip, visit a couple casinos( Honey if you seen one…you’ve seen them all)..finally we take a cab back to my room where heavy make outs occur(YUCK!)..after about an hour of escalation attempts and freezeouts, I was defeated by LMR. Most likely because I didn’t qualify her enough. I mean…what was I gonna say? …” You know what I like about you…you have a voracious APPETITE for life” LOL. So I eventually tell her I’m done and kick her out of my room..” kick rocks and take a cab back to whatever casino can hold you”.  I then went  to bed..I had to be up in like 2 hours for the superconferance…FUCK!!!

10 Second Attraction superconference

Mehow: First day of the conference was awesome. Mehow gave us tons of value, showed of some videos of him in action where he went extremely sexual throughout the entire interaction and gave us fresh, original material. He talked much about the value velocity involved in the 10 SA system and touched on all the different elements.

Sinn: While Mehow was talking Sinn arrived and sat down Right next to me in the back…he seemed really hyper….actually pretty funny. When he got up to talk he was super intense. He is a powerful speaker. He loaded his speech with immense amounts of value…I couldn’t take notes fast enough. He talked much on same day lays, Frames, movement and injecting sexuality in your interactions. He also talked about what he went trough to get good at various aspects of his game. He had insane dedication…it was not unusual for him to day game 50-60 sets a day om Saturdays and Sundays!

Dj Fuji: As usual, he had very solid information. He touched on the Myths in the community, His formula to success, the importance of mid game, causes of weirdness, maintaining normalcy, and also went through some of his routines. I like Fuji because he gives it to you flat an honest. A lot of people tend to mislead you into thinking that their products will be the “magic bullet” to your pick-up success and often try to get you to accept their method of teaching almost in cult like fashion. Fuji does the complete opposite. He tells you straight up about the hard work and persistence needed to get good at the game and actually recommends  you to learn from various gurus to get better. I admire his honesty, discipline, and selflessness.

Kamoflauge: Kamo, who is in my opinion, one of the best PUAs in the world talked about his background, contextual game, humour/attraction techniques, extraction/end game techniques, and overcoming LMR. There is a bright future for this guy if he can only overcome his laziness lol. He reminds me a lot about myself. I talked to him recently and asked him if he had blog. he told he has one that will be up in a few months. I am really looking forward to that. He also told me about how a friend of his writes up his field reports because he’s to lazy to. That’s hilarious…at the same time…I wish someone could do the same for me LOL. Anyways, the best part of his speech was when he talked about contextual game. The metaphor he used to describe it was reciting lyrics vs. freestyling. He then exemplified this by rapping to a Dr.Dre song. He first rapped verbatim to song. He then put on the instrumental version and freestyled to it…so fucking awesome. The power of free association! What’s funny about this is that this is a free association exercise is something I do often. I’m an avid hip-hop fan so I occasionally freestyle to instrumentals. There has been many nights after sarging that I have popped in an instrumental CD and freestyled on the way home. I always believed it improved my ability to free associate effectively in field and it was a great treat to see that I was not the only PUA to engage in this practice.


That night we once again had bottle service and tables at Pure. My infield instructor was now Mehow. He made me do some super tough mixed sets…and I didn’t bother hesitating because….IT WAS FUCKING MEHOW… I did not want to look like a pussy infront of him. So I opened some mixed sets with great success. He gave me props for some of the sets that I approached. As per Mehow’s order, I  winged Daniel(another MCIP student) on his asian 2 set…it went really well…I was glad to have assisted him. We bounced them downstairs to our table and our group was joined by another one of their friends. Me and their friend hit it off really well. I was determined to correct many of the mistakes from the previous night. Mainly I kept in mind to flirt more and escalate sexually…in about 5 minutes, heavy make out ensued. The coolest part about it was their friends were totally into me and her hooking up instead of trying to cock-block. I went through my “REVISED” interleaved grounding sequence, qualified her properly, and had a genuine conversation with her. I continued to escalate and we really enjoyed each other. I went through the evolution phase shift technique on her and it worked like a charm. In no time, we were biting and sucking eachother’s next for the next 40-50 minutes. He friends soon left us alone. After a while, my target was sorta pissed that her girls left her alone on her birthday. She began to worry. I continued to plow. When they finally did return, they yanked her from me to go club hopping. Mehow asked me what happened and I told him…he then rushed me to go find her and bounce with her friends with Daniel. They were gone.;0(.  I would have closed her that night for sure. In my opinion I believe the problem was that their was only Daniel and I and three of them. Maybe if we had another guy to occupy the third wheel? Who knows. I continued to open sets and 10 minutes later I had a solid kiss close with this girl from Kentucky. I escalated super fast…withing a minute we were making out heavily and I was seductively grinding in between her legs while pinning her hands to the wall. It was a powerful feeling. The night went by. Mehow how gave me major props on my performance and told me I needed to focus on logistics. He said everything else was pretty solid. I did pretty much everything right THAT night.  Anywho, I had number closed that Asian girl who was stolen by her friends previously. I would get in contact with her later that night when they were at their hotel room. I bantered with her and her friends on their speaker phone for about 30 minutes but I could not get them to meet up. They were fucking with me hardcore….getting extremely sexual on the phone..talking about how they were about to eat each others pussies and they wanted me to join…lol…terrible. They asked me to send them a picture of my cock and I told them my phone didn’t have enough mega pixels lol!! I am still in contact with her by text but she lives in CALi…who knows what the future holds. All in All, it was a good night.

Conferance Day 2:

Hypnotica: I got to this kinda late. Also, I believe MEhow and team must have gotten up late too because they were pressed for time plus everyone including me forgot about daylight savings…we lost an hour! So we didn’t get to see much about Hypnotica. What I did see, however, I was impressed by. This guy is super alpha. He talked much about state and sexual energy. I could feel the energy emanating from he. He is a sexual beast. His talk was very powerful and deep. One cool thing he talked about was learning to flirt and seduce yourself. I found this really interesting. Now i have made an effort to get in touch with and embrace my sexiness. It sounds gay I know…but I believe it can be very helpful. Another thing I would like to share is when he talked about MEta State. I have applied this right away. He advises being more detailed with your affirmations. For example, instead of affirming ” I am a confident alpha male” you would affirm ” I am a charismatically confident or seductively confident alpha male.” This subtle change can make a world of change to how your unconscious mind creates your reality of self.

El Topo: What can I say…absolutely hilarious, fucking dirty mouthed fool this guy is. I really enjoyed the comment about how he told a girl he was gonna turn this girls pussy inside out and how when he was done with her, she was going to need 2 tampons. Gotta love him. El topo talked about sexualized game, importance of cold reads and various ways to do them, being sexually empowered, creating immediate dominance by use of body language, and starting/stopping/restarting attraction throughout the interaction. I have to say, his shit on cold reads, was soooooo MONEY!! I believe cold reads are some of the best ways to create comfort in an interaction. I have never had a women that wasn’t intrigued by a cold reading. I am looking forward to making them a major part of my game. During the lunch break I actually got to eat lunch with El Topo which was really cool. I asked him a couple questions and he recorded me and his answers on his voice recorder thingy. Awesome!! He is a genuinely cool guy.

Lovedrop: Unfortunately I did not get to see Lovedrop speak because I was being debriefed by Kamo and Fuji in the next room.

My debrief notes are as follows:

Fuji’s debrief of me:

– opening starts when you open the door to the venue
– Dominance is a projection of confidence
– If you don’t open those mixed or whatever sets you don’t acquire that skill set.
– You got to be that guy who is a machine in field to get good
– Fix the dominance and overnight you will have your results doubled
– Never buy into the the frame about trying to get into the girls pants

KAmo- He didn’t see much of me in field but from what he did see…these are the things he thinks I needed to improve on

–  need a fun vibe. Not bringing enough to the table to want the girls to talk to you.
– Stop all platonic conversation. Talk about me and her.
– Way way more playful. Take the set way less serious.
– Disqualify them on ridiculous bullshit
– You want it to be a flirty conversation
– Practice not taking anything seriously
– More aggressive through Kino
– Incorporate a lot of different kino
– Take her hand put it on me.
– If your standing up…arm and arm link. Push girls away(really your pushing yourself back)
– Playing with girls hair
– The way you do like a sister
– High five and clasp bring it down you already have a lot of attraction