Chode Week + LR and TR

Chode Week

I'm Feeling Kinda Chody

I'm Feeling Kinda Chody

I’m not particularly proud of of the last two weeks. Upon arriving back back from Vegas,  I have seen only minor changes in my game. Although I have corrected some of my “bad habits”,  my state hasn’t been that solid. I feel like a chode. My approach anxiety has returned slightly,  and I haven’t been opening very many sets. The sets that have stuck,  tend to stick pretty well due to improvements in my stack.  Sometimes I’m not sure if that’s a gift or a curse. I gives me more of an opportunity to work my “magic” but then again, if I act like a pussy and refuse to escalate,  it turns into a complete waste of time. In Vegas, I felt invincible. I opened mixed 2 and 3 sets without hesitation. In addition to this, the girls where extremely hot compared to DC girls. Here are the highlights for my last few outings.

Tuesday Night 3/10: Lima
JSC and I meet up at Lima. I am feeling anxiety. I feel unprepared and uncalibrated. I’m thinking of getting a drink at the bar,  but I decide to stick to my no drinking in field rule. After all, you can’t rely on alcohol when your teaching a bunch of students.  This is  a habit I need to get rid of immediately.  JSC opens up a chick close to the bar on the top floor. Her friend soon arrives and I banter with her. She is hot and into to me so I am super aggressive. I tease her, run a few routines, a couple of cold reads and transition into comfort. After about 30 minutes we bounce downstairs. For the rest of the night, I danced with her and ran comfort on her until an eventual make out on the dance floor. She had to go eventually so I numbered closed her and she left. More on her later.

Friday 3/13: Front Page/Shadow Room
Went to Shadow room with JSC, Dare, and Horizon. IT was wack. I actually left Front Page to go there on Dare’s request and it turns out the crowd was pretty weak. I was kinda blown about this because Front Page had some really hot girl there that night….and that’s rare. This was my first time at Shadow Room and I was pretty disappointed. It’s about as big as my bedroom so I had anxiety about losing social value by approaching. I opened like 1 or two girls the whole night. Dare made out with a fat Russian chick so now I make fun of him regularly…it wouldn’t be a bid deal if he didn’t mention it but since he did I’m not going to let it go…. I will now bust out in maniacal laughter.

Saturday Night 3/14?: College Park
Went to Thirsty Turtle with JSC and IAMBRIAN. WACKKKK!!! It was hot and overcrowded. IT also smelled. I approached a few sets but the loudness of the venue made it impossible to interact with the young ADD college chicks. I will have to work greatly on my nonverbal came if I ever decide to go back there.

HOW I FELT THIS WEEK

HOW I FELT THIS WEEK

Tuesday 3/17 Lima, Irish Times, Lima
Went to LIMA with JSC and when we arrived we found that like 10 PUA’s were going there that night. We decided to bounce to Irish Times with Dare which was a complete sausage fest and featured a handful of unattractive irish girls. Kill that noise! Went back to LIMA and had moderate success opening sets but nothing really hooked. My Subcoms have been off all week.

Friday night 3/20 t: Front Page/ Gazuza/Chi-Cha lounge
Started out at Front page. Wasn’t really poppin’ like it was last week so after meeting up with Stonewall and JSC we bounced to Gazuza. There I Met up with Dare, Horizon, Fearless(faggot), Professor Dan, and Slugger. Basically just relaxed the whole time I was there..wasn’t too bad just a little crowded. I like Gazuza’s atmosphere but it’s not really good for gaming.   Approached a couple sets and pawned a decent Columbian chick off to Stonewall as an early B-day present. I Didn’t feel like dealing with the language barrier… Ended up @ Chi-Cha lounge which was surprisingly empty for a Friday night. The atmosphere was really fun though. I was pretty much a chode crystal while I was there opening only about 2-3 sets. Towards the end of the night I opened a 2 set. I ran my attraction and moved into comfort while JSC occupied the obstacle. I didn’t really have much time to build enough comfort with my target(“R”) but I number closed her anyway at the end of the night. I didn’t really believe it would be a solid number.   I had been texting her back and forth for a while but she really surprised me one early morning. Here is our  conversation from the beginning to end over several days.

Ok I had something weird happen to me yesterday. I received a text from a girl I met last week at Chi Cha lounge from a girl named R.  I had been texting her back and forth for a while but she really surprised me one early morning. Here is our  conversation from the beginning to end over several days.

ME: Meow
Her:Meow?;-)
Her: I have no idea who this is
ME: Chris from Chi-CHa ..remember you wouldn’t let me leave without getting my number?
Her: Ohhh….Wowze…how r u?;-)
Me: (Can’t remember what I said her the text was deleted in the thread of my phone)

(Dead Air)

Next Day

ME: What’s Cuter..a mini pony or a giant Kitten?
Her:Hmmmmm good question…I think a small pony….a giant kitten would be weird
ME: Interesting…that says a lot about you…are u adventurous?
Her: What does it say about me? I think I’m pretty adventurous 😉
ME: Really….what’s the most adventurous thing that you’ve ever done
(No response)

Next Day
ME: Hey I’m luring girls back to my house with candy….do you prefer skittles or M&M’s?
Her:M&Ms….why do you ask these type of question? 😉 btw, I walked 400 ft up in the air on a canopy bridge in Africa…that was pretty adventurous 2 me 😉
ME: IT’s Fun ;o) Holy Shit! That is intense…is a canopy one of those really unstable bridges like in the Indiana Jones movies? UR Wiiiilld? (Framing her sexually)
(No Response Dead Air)

So heres where it gets weird. So I didn’t put the times but these previous texts were reallly spread out….like she took long periods of time to respond…I did also…to kind of seem unneedy or whatever. But when I met her I didn’t have a lot of time to build  much comfort so I barely know her and the number close did not seem that solid. Also, as you can see in the text messages..she doesn’t appear to be that into the text convo…but she is responding. So this morning(yesterday now) around 4:40 AM I was just about to slip into bed after a night out in the field and she texts me……

NEXT MORNING @ like 4:40AM

Her: Yep- a canopy bridge is a really narrow bridge that hangs high in the air from trees…I don’t kno if I’m wild..but I like 2 take chances;-)
Me: Exhilarating…Oh my ur up late! I just laid my head on my pillow( I literally did at that time). What were u up to tonight naughty girl?
Her: Ur the one who’s up late ;-), but my kid woke me up…now I need someone to put me back 2 sleep….

(This caught me by surprise)

ME: I could help u with that
HEr: U gonna read me a bedtime story?;-)
ME: Nope…U won’t need one of those…guess again
HER: Hmmmm….some lullabye music?;-)
ME: IT would be rhythmic I guess
Her: WoW…It sounds interesting
Me: If u could have what u needed right in this moment….anything…what would it be?
Her: And maybe a lik sumthin else…;-)
Me: If u could have what u needed right in this moment….anything…what would it be?
Her: U didn’t get my response?
Nope
Her: Being held in the arms of a man who cares about me….

(What is this like a massive shit test….I was not prepared for that)

Her: And maybe a lil sumthin else…..;_)
Me: Hmmmm….I would be lying if I said I did…I barely know u…but I’m sure u are someone I COULD care about…damn u went all deep on me girl

(DId I fail the test?I’m thinking maybe I should have done a takeaway or teased her instead of getting all logical and stuff…I just didn’t feel it would have been appropriate given the circumstances)

Her: I don’t expect u 2 care…but u did ask if I could have anthing I needed n that’s what I need ;-)…what I want is a whole diff story….
Me: Well then…if u could have anything u wanted…at this moment….within reason…what would u request?

(Did I buy into her frame??)

Her: In that case…I barely kno u n don’t kno if I shld divulge such info…but ur someone I COULD share that with eventually…..;-)

(Damn…reversed the frame on me? The sucky thing is I gave her the leeway to do so…she used my own words against me…she was looking for plausible deniability and I think I engaged her logical mind..)

Me: HAha..naughty girl…I would WANT to access ur thoughts right now…
Her: I ‘m sure u would…there’s a lot 2 access..n some of it is definetely naughty
Me: I bet some of them are…u got those bad girl eyes…I bet ur fun
Her: I try 2 be ;-)…what makes my eyes “bad girl” eyes? Never heard this one before…
Me: By looking at them I pick up that sense of devilish curiousity….sensuality…like ur sort of quiet but u just like to really let yourself go when u
Me: meet someone ur fascinated by and attracted to…it really gets u excited
Me: U keep most of ur sexuality bottled up..until someone comes along to twist the cap…
(no response dead air)

SO I am really confused about this convo. It kind of caught me off guard so I wasn’t prepared and I ran pretty weak text game. I bought into all her frames. I think this girl just woke up horny and was possibly hoping I would say all the right things so she would create a reason to sleep with me. I don’t know…she really caught me by surprise…I’m upset I failed becuase I believe this could have resulted in a lay that I WASN’T supposed to get…instead I might have just screwed it up period…we’ll see how it goes.

A fellow instructor in training had to say this about my conversation. He gave me really great advice:

“M” from NY

I feel like she’s leading the interaction and you don’t really escalate. She starts to go vaguely sexual but you pretty much just meet her at the same point. If you really want to go sexual you have to be the one to lead an escalate it. And yeah, you go too logical in this one.

Her:M&Ms….why do you ask these type of question? 😉

Translation: this is weird, stop asking weird questions. You didn’t ask another one so that’s fine.

Me: By looking at them I pick up that sense of devilish curiousity….sensuality…like ur sort of quiet but u just like to really let yourself go when u
Me: meet someone ur fascinated by and attracted to…it really gets u excited
Me: U keep most of ur sexuality bottled up..until someone comes along to twist the cap…
(no response dead air)

You did an elaborate cold read over text, so I’m not surprised you got dead air. Pretty much anytime you get 3 text messages in a row from someone it feels like they’re trying too hard. If you really want to use that cold read on her, open loop it. It gives her something to wonder about so you can get her on the phone later.

Her: What do you mean bad girl eyes?
You: I’ll tell you later 😉

Her: Being held in the arms of a man who cares about me….

This isn’t really a shit test, just her answering your question. You gave her an odd, pretty big hoop for text: If you could have anything what would it be, and she jumped through it, and you think its a shit test.

Granted, its definitely a loaded statement, but there’s plenty of good ways to deal with it.

Her: And maybe a lil sumthin else…..;_)
Me: Hmmmm….I would be lying if I said I did…I barely know u…but I’m sure u are someone I COULD care about…damn u went all deep on me girl

Here she’s being implicitly sexual, and you stick with logical and rather than respond to the sexual implication you go with the loaded statement, which you can now ignore since she sent the follow up.

If you really want to go sexual though (and I know you do) you have to lead and escalate it.
“Its too bad I can’t help you with that… I only have a LOT of something else”

The whole interaction I feel like you’re just reacting “Yeah? Is that what you want? What else do you want? Oh yeah?” and not leading. And also not really adding any value to the thread.

Her: I don’t expect u 2 care…but u did ask if I could have anthing I needed n that’s what I need ;-)…what I want is a whole diff story….
Me: Well then…if u could have anything u wanted…at this moment….within reason…what would u request?

There she’s basically saying its cool lets drop that caring part and move on, but you are still insisting she give you more and basically say it, which is asking her to lead.  She’s being implicit and you are trying to get her to be explicit, which ain’t gonna happen. I know, you’re trying to ellicit or whatever, and it was fine the first time, but now you’re just asking her to give all the value. This might be a good thread in person, but its too much convoluted NLP stuff for text.

If you’re gonna go sexual, you have to push it and be the one to move it forward.  see how  threads get more and more outrageous and more blatantly sexual once the girl is receptive to the frame.

But at the same time, you never release sexuality in your texts, so you might want to practice doing that more. Just because you release doesn’t mean she’s going to suddenly not want to have sex with you anymore. You can probably use one of the ones from the book via text, just shorten it so you’re not sending 3 texts in a row, like:
“I want you to take all these dirty thoughts you’re having, and put them in a ziplock bag in your mind and save them for later”

Or you can release with humor.

Her: And maybe a lil somethin else 😉
You: Oh I know what you want…delicious ov
altine!

(though with her being that implicit I’d probably try to work with it rather than fully release the sexuality, just saying something to think about in general, remember: fractionation)

Hope these are some useful ideas.

BACK TO THE FR’S!!

Saturday night 3/21: Gazuza:
Went back to Gazuza’s for Stonewall’s B-day. Immediately we were joined by 3 HB’s. They were cute but were kind of value stealers and kind of sabotaged our chances of bringing other chicks to the table since space was limited. Ran a couple sets during the night and nothing really hooked too solid. At the end of the night I  got a solid number close after opening a chick with my “Robot”  Pure Kino which is always fun and social proofed me in front of like 10 people including like 6 of her friends. I have been playfully bantering with “M #11”  for about a week now.

WEEK OF 3/22

This week I haven’t really been sarging. I’ve opened a minimum amount of sets. I have been going to venues and just observing the vibe and energy of the place. I have been drinking and getting fucked up for once.

Wednesday Night 3/25 18th St. lounge
I visit my my venue-worst-enemy where I never have success. Except this time, I am not there to sarge. I drink, observe the vibe, and people watch. I enjoyed the music. This place seems less intimidating now. Can’t wait to visit next week.

Thursday Nigh 3/26t: Muse/Front Page/ Lucky Bar
Hung out with chick from Lima(3/10) and then hit Muse with JSC. It is the size of my living room. We leave and go to Front Page where I proceed to get fucked up off Corona’s. IT feels good to just chill out for once. I observe the vibe and energy of the venue. I people watch. Left and went to Lucky Bar to meet up with Clorox, Fate, and newcomer Guff. I Basically fool around with them the whole night talking about experiences with Fate and South Park with Clorox ;0) I go to the Empanada place next door and am amused by the homeless guy who skillfully lifts three juices in like 2 seconds after distracting the obstacle(owner) with his verbals and then throwing a false time constraint. He’s got game.


Friday Night 3/27: Day 4 With Chick from Lima(from 3/10 FR) LAY REPORT

I’m not going to create a detailed lay report in this instance for my own safety. This is a girl I really like and respect so I’m going to spare the really intricate details. I hope you can still learn something from this.

So I had been playfully bantering with the chick I met at Lima 3/10 pretty much everyday. We hung out a couple times since that time. I’ve had her at my place 2 times without closing but did have really heavy make out sessions and small amounts of foreplay. Friday we met up for a quick Dinner out and came back to my place and kind of just goofed off. We watched Youtube videos, danced to music videos and watched a little TV. I also revealed a little more about my identity to her by showing my musical talents. IT was pretty much a comfort building night. I tried escalating on her  randomly over several hours with no success. I believe the LMR killer was allowing her to take control at the end. I had been pretty dominant the whole night and  ever since I met her I’ve constantly Kinoed  and escalated with her. I believe it kind of made her uncomfortable since she wasn’t ready. She told me she wasn’t ready. She told me that although she felt REALLY comfortable with me, she hadn’t reached the level of comfort that would enable herself to have sex with me. She told me we were NOT having sex. Well we made out heavily, this time with her on top and we began kind of dry humping. She started feeling on my junk and I pulled my shorts and boxers off to give her REAL access. She stroked me briefly and then hopped back on me to dry hump me, this time, she let me pull the shorts that I gave her(PJ FUJI!) off. So she started grinding on my bare junk with her panties on. I believe this made her really horny and It gave her just enough control to make the decision on her own that she was comfortable to have sex. I was no longer pressuring her. She let me pull her panties panties off without resistance and allowed me to enter her.

So I have about 5 chicks in my rotation who are somewhat into me. This is the first that I’ve met that is GF material. I’m very attracted to her and she has a beautiful personality. So I’m kind of experiencing a high quality problem. I like her and care for her but the timing is obviously bad. I have just began my PUA journey and have no intention of delaying it to be in a relationship. She is a great girl and I feel bad that I will most likely have to lie to her about my “extracurricular” activities. I know most PUA’s would tell me to just be honest and upfront with her. I can’t. I still operate from a scarcity mentality and this is not a girl that I’m willing to lose right now. I need to have someone like her in my life right now. I haven’t experienced emotions close to love in a real long time. I believe I can honestly care deeply for her while seeing other women. It’s the way it has to be right now.

Lessons learned:
– Always be escalating
– Build as much comfort as possible.
– Don’t be afraid to relinquish control. Calibrate based on the situation and the girl’s personality type.
– Dry humping makes girls horny
– Let her feel your junk!
– Tight text game handles most of the work for you!!

Confused

Confused

Tonight 3/28???

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3 Responses to “Chode Week + LR and TR”

  1. Ur freaking chode picture is hilarious.

    You are the shit.

  2. cavemanchris Says:

    You like the picture of me?? Thanks.

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